There have been few more towering figures
in the fishing and maritime industries than the late John Ross who died, aged 74,
in May 2011.
In recognition of his illustrious career
first with the family-run Ross Group, then with publicly-owned Cosalt,
he was appointed High Steward of the Borough of North East Lincolnshire - a
prestigious, honorary position, reflecting the esteem in which he had been
held by the community for his services over half-a-century.
The ceremony held at Grimsby Town Hall was a proud occasion not just for John Ross but also for members
of his family.
What made the occasion more moving was
that, for the previous decade, he had been struggling with a
heart condition, Parkinson's disease and epilepsy, all of which combined to
have a seriously immobilising effect.
Mr Ross enjoyed conversations with
members of his family and his many friends, watching TV programmes about
politics and listening to Radio 4 - he was an avid fan of The Archers.
But he was unable to walk and found it
difficult to read, to write or to use a computer.
He lost his first wife Jennifer to cancer
and subsequently married Gill.
Since his death, the John Ross Community
Trust Fund, set up in his memory, has raised huge amounts of money for worthy
groups and organisations throughout the borough.
In this hitherto unpublished
question-answer interview of March 2008, he talked about his life and times.
How do you feel about becoming High Steward
of the borough?
It is
a great honour. I am especially proud because it is a position previously held
by my father J. Carl Ross. Some while back, a current councillor - I will not
name him - tentatively inquired if I might be interested. The next thing, I
was invited to a meeting with the council's chief executive, George
Krawiec. I asked him if he had any reservations about my being in a wheelchair,
but he reassured me it was very much the opposite. The council's approach
demonstrated its commitment the interests of everyone, including those
with a disability. I heard nothing more for a few months until an
invitation to the ceremony came out of the blue.
You live in Grimsby now, but you are originally
from Cleethorpes?
Yes,
when I was a boy, the family home was at 39 Signhills Avenue. I was born around the corner
at a nursing home in Bradford Avenue. Some of my
earliest memories are of playing on the beach with my brothers and
sisters.
Did you go to school locally?
It
was wartime. Although not as badly hit as Hull, the Grimsby area was regularly the target
of enemy bombing raids. To keep me out of harm's way, I was sent away to
Ilkley in Yorkshire where I went to a prep school. But it closed when the
teachers were called up for service. When I was 13, I went to Shrewsbury School.
Isn't that he same public school
that Michael Hesltine attended?
Yes,
he was in same form. We were different types. My contemporaries also included
Richard Ingram and Paul Foot who went on to found the satirical magazine,
Private Eye.
Were your schooldays happy?
Very
much so. I was far from being a star but I loved every minute of them. My
end-of-term reports regularly referred to me as being cheerful and sociable.
Sad to say, references to my academic ability are few and far between.
After Shrewsbury, did you go straight into the
family fishing firm that your father was building?
Not
yet. After I passed the entrance exams, I went on to Clare College, Cambridge where my degree subject was
Economics and Law. I also enjoyed my life at university.
Soon afterwards, you joined Ross. it must have been an
exhilarating and fulfilling career. Judging by the records, the Ross Group was
always eager to innovate, both with its trawling activities and with how the
catches were frozen and processed.
There
was no shortage of challenges. It was very rewarding to be a part of building
up the business and consolidating Grimsby's reputation as a
world-famous fishing town. My father's enthusiasm was infectious. I remember
how pleased he was when he bought Young's. He said it was the best day's work
he had ever done. I had plenty of opportunities for travelling overseas on
business - for instance, on buying trips to places such as Peru and Chile.
Over the years, you and the family must have eaten your fair share
of fish. Do you have a favourite?
Haddock.
It's always said in Grimsby that haddock is for eating,
cod is for selling. It's about 10 years since I've eaten cod. Someone once
brought in at a family gathering. It was terrible, but I didn't make a
fuss. I ate it up like a good boy!
You must still have vivid memories of the
golden era of Grimsby as a fishing town?
By
1968, there were some 60 or so trawlers. That was the peak. At Ross, we prided
ourselves on having the top skippers. They understood the fish seasons and
where the best catches were to be made.
But soon after came the introduction of fishing
limits and Iceland's decision to exclude our
vessels from its waters.
From
then on, the writing was on the wall. Our trawlers were scrapped or
became supply ships to oil rigs. One was converted to host a pirate radio
station, Radio Caroline.
Do you think the politicians botched things? Do you have any sense
of bitterness about the decline of Britain's fishing industry?
There
was a lot of mix-up. Sometimes things seem right thing at the time - but less
so many years later with hindsight. There is a parallel later with how the
country has abandoned many of its coal mines. But it's a point of principle
with me never to be bitter or resentful? It serves no purpose. You just have to
adapt to the changed circumstances and move on with your next project.
In time, you and your father were both ousted from Ross Group. But
your own career took a new direction when you took the helm at Cosalt which you
ran for the best part of a couple of decades until your retirement. You changed
its name from Great Grimsby Coal Salt and Tanning Company, re-energised it
and successfully took it to a Stock Market flotation. What was once a seemingly
quaint parochial business has flourished ever since.
With
the decline of the fishing industry, there was no choice but to adapt and
innovate if the company was to survive. New services and products needed to be
introduced. Supplying marine safety equipment became an increasingly
significant part of the business as it remains today. For me, there was a lot
of personal satisfaction that it was Cosalt-supplied products that saved the
lives of passengers when, last year, a cruise ship camed to grief in
the Antarctic. I am no longer connected with the company but it has as its
slogan: "Safety at Sea".
Your son, David, has also enjoyed a highly successful
business career, notably as joint-founder with his school pal Charles Dunston
of Carphone Warehouse. But he recently followed in your footsteps by
becoming non-executive chairman of Cosalt. Have you been tempted to renew your involvement?
Not
in the slightest. You have to recognise when the time has come to let go. I
maintain an interest, but I would certainly never wish to interefere. If
David wants me know anything, he tells me. But otherwise we just know what we
read in the newpapers. He is also non-exective chairman of National
Express plc and has other business and charitable interests, particularly to do
with education.
Do you have any other sons?
My
eldest, James, has a chain of 10 bookshops in Malaga and other parts of Spain. He is married to a Belgian
and they have four children.
What about daughters?
Emma
is married with three children and lives near Malton in Yorkshire. Lucy is no longer married
but is bringing up three children at Uppingham. Then there is Sophie who lives
in Leicestershire and had recently bcome engaged.
As well as a full business career, you
also have some political feahers to your bow?
Yes,
I served as a Conservative councillor for six years Although I enjoyed it, I
decided against pursuing any sort of political career in local government.
Did you ever consider standing as . . .
An
MP! No, not unless they brought Parliament to Grimsby! I've always been to much of
a homebird. The prospect of spending Monday to Thursday in London would not appeal. It can't do
much good for any family life.
What are your thoughts of some of the
prime ministers of the past few decades?
Margaret
Thatcher was brilliant, I showed her around one of of our factories and had
lunch with her. She was good fun. John Major found it difficult to make up his
mind. Blair was brillant. Gordon Brown is terrible - not helped by the fact
that he's surrounded himself with people who are less than honest.
Did you know Ted Heath?
I
didn't greatly care for him. I accompanied him once from Grantham to Grimsby. I can't remember if, at the
time, he was Leader of the Opposition or a minister. His manner was very
stiff, and he insisted on bringing some of his aides with him, and I
didn't much like the tenor of the conversation. He refused to travel in an
old-fashioned Bentley, so we all piled into an Austin 1800.
What about the likes of Harold Wilson and
Callaghan?
Hold on, you're forgetting I'm a young
man - I can' remember either of them!
Let's go back further - to Harold
McMillan and Sir Alec Douglas Home
They
belonged to another generation. In those days, prime ministers were
gentlemen. It's very different now - they're professionals.
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